Introduction

Daniella Genas lost a patch of hair the size of four 50p coins from stress. A doctor called her, alarmed, after a blood test showed her vitamin D level at three when it should have been fifty. She was seven or eight months pregnant, driving up and down the motorway to see her mother in a coma on life support, running a business that had shrunk from eight staff to one, and about to be dropped by investors for the second time.

Outwardly, she was winning awards, appearing on BBC Radio 4 and speaking at events across the country. Behind the scenes, an employee had stolen her intellectual property, another had taken her to a tribunal for £30,000, and she was, by her own account, a terrible manager. In this conversation with Sope Agbelusi, the founder of She's the Boss International explains how she turned that collapse into the methodology behind her current business, and why she still calls herself genuinely unemployable.

From wanting to be the UK's Oprah to founding an ACS from scratch

As a teenager, Daniella's dream was to be a performer, a singer, rapper, dancer and actress, until an audition for a hip-hop opera she failed while her friends and cousins all got through told her the message clearly. She pivoted to a new model: the UK's version of Oprah Winfrey, a media mogul with a TV show, a magazine, books and a book club, despite having no vocabulary for "entrepreneurship" and nobody in her circle in business.

Her father's influence proved decisive. He repeatedly told her to build ways of generating income that did not depend on having a boss, a principle she only understood the value of in hindsight. At university, finding no African Caribbean society at what was then UCE, she started one herself, and it thrived. That instinct, chasing something that did not exist, traced back to organising a citywide event for a mentoring charity at 17, entirely solo: promotions, hiring performers, a radio advert, even the flyer design. The event her ACS group ran, Talent, later became the flagship project of the business she launched straight out of university.

Genuinely unemployable

Within a year of graduating, Daniella cycled through a marketing company, a recruitment company, a magazine and a theatre company, unable to tolerate being told what to wear, when to eat or what to do. She traces the pattern back to school, once walked out of class repeatedly and around the block rather than sit still. Her verdict on herself is blunt: some people are not built to be managed, and if you are one of them, staying in employment will damage your CV more than it helps you. Her practical advice to people who recognise themselves in this: work out how to generate income that does not require a job, because job-hopping looks worse on paper than building something of your own.

A terrible manager, by her own admission

Daniella tried to run her first business the way she wished she had been managed: flexible, output-focused, hands-off. It backfired completely. Left to their own devices, staff did not know what they were meant to be doing, and the business suffered a run of serious incidents: stolen intellectual property, a £30,000 tribunal claim, and a manager so uncomfortable firing people that she had a colleague do it from home while she waited by the phone. Her honest diagnosis: she is not just bad at managing people, she is bad at recruiting them, and she never actually wanted to manage; she wanted to run events and work with young people. Her lesson for founders now: you want entrepreneurial people on your team, but you do not want entrepreneurs in your team, and it is worth asking people directly how they want to be led rather than assuming.

The collapse: theft, a tribunal, a coma and a pregnancy, all at once

Daniella's account of the end of her first business is unflinching. An employee stole her intellectual property and used it to secure £100,000 of funding for her own venture. Another sued her. Her mother went into hospital for a routine operation and ended up in a coma on life support. Two separate rounds of investors pulled out, the second asking her, seven or eight months pregnant, to hit a specific revenue target in six months before they would sign. She describes being furious, at herself, at the investors, at the staff who had let her down, at life.

She had her daughter in July, took the newborn with her to sign the papers selling the business in August, and started an MBA in September with one explicit goal: to work out exactly where she had gone wrong so she could stop others making the same mistakes.

Alone, and why that mattered

Asked directly whether she felt supported through the collapse, Daniella says nobody had ever asked her that before. Her husband was supportive but not able to relate to the daily realities of running a business. A mentor from a BBC Radio 4 Woman's Hour series had real impact on her mindset, but the mentorship was time-limited and ended just before the real crisis began. Pride kept her from admitting publicly that things were falling apart while she was still being celebrated as a success story. What she could not find, from business advisors or theoretical coaches who had never run a business themselves, was accountability: someone who would ask directly why she was not making the sales calls she said she would make. That gap, more than anything, is the reason She's the Boss exists.

No break, and no regrets about that either

Daniella did not pause after selling the business. She completed her MBA on maternity leave, against a friend's objection, because the scholarship was free and she could not turn it down. She then took a fixed-term contract testing her emerging methodology across a deliberately wide range of industries, from social enterprises to a £1.5 million steel art fabrication company in rural Nuneaton, before going fully independent. The variety mattered: she did not want to be a coach with one success story borrowing someone else's framework. When the methodology worked across genuinely different sectors, she had the evidence to back the name she eventually chose.

She's the Boss: the name, the pride, and what success actually looks like

The business was first called Genas Enterprise Consultants before becoming She's the Boss, a nickname from a friend, Nathan Dennis, who used to introduce her as "World Boss", combined with research she did during her MBA on barriers facing female entrepreneurs, which became a YouTube interview series. She is proud of her career, but clear that she is not "done": more businesses, land in the Caribbean and Africa, international speaking, a published book, and a lifestyle built around frequent travel are all still on the list.

What she is proudest of is not financial. It is clients from over a decade ago still crediting her advice for where they are now, and her six-year-old daughter, visibly more confident than Daniella was at that age, repeating her mother's mantra, "think big, take action, keep pushing", back to her unprompted. She is equally proud of simply not giving up, including resisting pressure from her husband and her own mother to "get a job", a pressure that reversed completely the day her mother watched her win an entrepreneurial award.

Leadership, defined

Daniella defines leadership as getting people to buy into a vision, understanding what motivates each person individually, and helping them see how their own goals connect to the bigger picture; without that, a leader is just a dictator, or worse, just another team member doing their own thing in parallel. She insists real leadership requires integrity and likability, and is sharply critical of social media "influencers" mistaken for leaders who lack the credibility or experience to back their advice. Her own practice, especially during lockdown, was to be publicly honest about hard days rather than perform constant positivity, a stance she believes helped people more than polished encouragement would have.